Loft 25

[chelseachick69]

Hi "Irishdjd:"

Welcome to Cyb. I would like to respond to some of what you posted and also, elaborate further on what I posted (after careful thought).

First of all, I totally agree with what you said concerning 25th Street. I had a friend who lived at 412 for a really long time, and there were times that you couldn't hear yourself talk or think; both from the street noise, people noise, etc. There wasn't a summer evening that went by if we were hanging at my friend's house, that you couldn't hear a full-on conversation, lyrics to something blasting out of a car stereo which, I sometimes caught myself bopping or singing along with; or, just people calling for people upstairs in 420. My friend got so sick of that, she moved to Park Slope!

Anyway, I also must agree that the drug dealing is truly an issue. I have seen it myself; many times. And, quite frankly, it probably would go on anyway, but I believe it is exacerbated by the fact that there are still clubs all up and down the area of 10th Avenue as well as east and west of 10th Avenue, that really bring it to a point of blatancy. (You know, the whole "stock and trade" thing. What a horror!) I further agree, that the cops sometimes don't give it as much of attention as it should be given. I see and hear them driving up and down the streets (25th & 26th Sts.), but it seems to be about presence more than action. What is the point of driving up and down when the problem is so pervasive? Presence is good, but action is so much better.

That said, I just want to reiterate and add that I still believe the "muckity-mucks," what with their resources, etc. could really do so much more to improve the situation. But they are also the one's I find most complacent, especially, when it comes to complaining and following it up with some improvements they can well afford.

Ah...it's that old addage, "...the Have's and the Have-not's." What a shame.

Peace!

"CC"

[Irishdjd]

I totally agree with you that the people with all the money moving in should pressure the city to DO more! There are those multi-million dolllar lofts on the corner of 26/9 and now the lofts on 25th. A friend of mine keeps saying when the lofts open things will get better. Unfortunately, I don't really think this will be the case. I'm trying to figure out how to keep my sanity living there...it isn't easy when not a single night goes by that I'm not awakened by some commotion outside.
I'm actually thinking about finding some way to break my lease...and get my deposit back..or even sublet the apt.

If anyone on this site has any constructive ideas on what to do, I'd appreciate hearing them!

[Phylicita]

Originally Posted by engldc

I just purchased a unit in Loft 25 and I’m not too concerned about the public housing across the way. I currently live in London Terrace on the 24th Street side and I’ve seen so much development within a 3 block radius over the past year. There are so many luxury residential buildings (eg 200eleventh.com) and galleries (eg Chelsea Arts Tower) that have been built or are going up in the immediate area that it really doesn’t matter how long it takes to develop the High Line--the area has already changed dramatically.

Hi, former London Terrace 24th Street side neighbor,

So have you moved into Loft 25? I've noticed that you folks seem quite sociable, neighborly and community-minded! Lots of parties up on the deck, I have to tell you, though, as you may not be aware: When you have music, it's really loud. I live further down the block near 10th Ave. in 460 and I hear it. When I go to sleep while you're still having a party, I have to run a fan or other "white noise." If I can hear everything so loudly at 460, it must be even worse for the people directly across from you. Any chance you can have the DJ lower the volume in the future?

[Chelsea Born]

Wow Im shocked that you stated they should move the projects, Im sorry but the crime developes in the club on tenth ave where it originates from if you read correctly in the chelsea Now, they are not residents of the projects these crimes are from outsiders, I have lived here since 1964 and yes the gays have moved this way quite some time now and its lovely that they did, they are beautiful people. but dont blame the crime rate on the projects cause most of us that were actually investigated as we move in there in 1964 were white irish, hispanics, and blacks, and have seen each others children and grandchildren grow here most moved on into the Co-Op's, and most of us real chelsea born individuals are respectable educated and help develope this "HOOD" as you called it, dont take me wrong but I wanted to express my thoughts, god bless

[catalyst]

"Im sorry but the crime developes in the club on tenth ave where it originates from if you read correctly in the chelsea Now, they are not residents of the projects these crimes are from outsiders... "

Who do you think is selling them drugs? If you remember, the dealer who was selling to the two FIT women who were recently arrested lived in the PJs. Also, 288 10th Ave is a known drug location. BTW - I think the clubs in the West 20s have ruined the neighborhood, and the patrons are reprehensible.

[Chelsea Born]

who do i think is selling these drugs? lol yes im sure there are a few bad apples here and there but you sound as if everyone in the PJs is a drug dealer lol.. anyway that one arrest was interesting cause if you get busted and reside in PJs your terminated. I know for a fact that most of the dealers live else where and know residents, yea it sucks that they choose to do there dirt here, but thats what all the camera's were placed for, but there not watched 24/7 like they should be. The club that is near that 288 Tenth ave PJ is a big problem and has become the nightmare of those residents there as well, they cant sleep those walls there are like paper they hear every car that passes and since they opened there all the car horns and crowds out there, I feel sorry for most of the residents there, its a nightmare.