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  • Jonathan
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    Travis - thank you. That's the kind of response I'm talking about. It's not an attack or an insult, it's a statement of your disagreement and what you believe. Perfect.

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  • toughbutsweetml
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    If "he" and his friends gang raped a girl, they were only"dismissed" from CH? Why not arrested? And out lingering ANYWHERE except in jail? I don't get it.... Do they let juvvies out for gang rape now?

    YES! QUITE DISTURBING INDEEED!

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  • jtbj1234
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    Sorry to hear of your loss and the damage to your car. I have been on that block on several occassions and must say that although no one has ever bothered me, there is quite a bit of activity on the corner of 9th avenue.

    I'm sure all those kids are not bad, but I also know that when kids get together in a group, they tend to do things they would not normally do when alone.

    Although it may not be likley, I sincerly hope you get you bike back. I will keep an eye out for it in the neighborhood..

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  • Travis
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    Please note : This is not an attack or meant to insult anyone.

    Liberal, progressive attitudes concerning urban crime like that of "Alexismckinnon's" attempt to rationalize, understand and of course, be tolerant of it.

    This just results in the urban crime rate including Public Housing to fester. I don't make excuses for this behavior, I am & always have been outraged by it. I don't want to understand it & will not tolerate it. I expect better of urban youth, I do not lower my expectations for them, that is the true discrimination of the progressive movement................of which Clelsea is the epicenter.

    If someone steals your bike, be Outraged, hound the cops & do not tolerate it.............Raise your expectations................We can do better...........

    Please note again: This is not an attack or meant to insult anyone.

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  • LongTime Resident
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    Tough...

    Sorry about your bike being stolen. I wouldn't put too much hope in getting it back, though. You're a lucky lady to still have another (better) one and a car. (Have you looked into a monthly parking lot? Or tried parking on another safer block somewhere?)

    More disturbing to me is this....

    Apparently he and a few other CH males gang raped a girl and were dismissed, but still linger around the neighborhood...
    If "he" and his friends gang raped a girl, they were only "dismissed" from CH? Why not arrested? And out lingering ANYWHERE except in jail? I don't get it.... Do they let juvvies out for gang rape now?

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  • Jonathan
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    Originally posted by Travis
    what screaming ??? you are a little sensitive...................
    Typing in all caps is considered "screaming" on the Internet. I know I may sound a little sensitive on this - but that's my thing. If you look around you'll see that it is extremely rare here for someone to "attack" anyone - except in the Controversial section where I let things get a little rougher.

    There were two responses to Alexis' comments. Toughbutsweetml's was thoughtful and reasoned where she simply stated her reasons for believing it was these kids. If you want someone to realize that troubled kids can sometimes cause trouble -- you can just say that. There's no need to attack them and say they're in denial. That's all I'm saying -- there's a friendly way and an unfriendly way to get across the same point.

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  • alexismckinnon
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    toughbutsweetml, thanks for clarifying. That does make sense, both with the bike and the fight resulting in the car dent. I do agree with you that every program has troublemakers, and that not every kid is on the up and up.

    Once again, I'm sorry to hear about the property damage, and I do hope you get your bike back somehow!

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  • alexismckinnon
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    Thanks Jonathan for the support!

    Travis, I'm not quite sure what I'm supposedly "in denial" about? You don't know me, how could you make such a blanket statement?

    I have worked with kids from programs like Covenant House, and I have also known people in low-income housing projects in Manhattan. I stand by my original statements. There are bad apples everywhere and frankly, I've seen just as many affluent prep school kids causing trouble as I have runaways. It's not fair to assume that someone is a delinquent because they come from a less than ideal family or financial situation.

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  • toughbutsweetml
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    great idea, but too late now...

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  • chelseachick69
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    Originally posted by toughbutsweetml
    we are talking about a very heavy gauge chain with a master lock. i thought there was no way it could be stolen... i do not know how they did it. i have two bikes, so i keep the more expensive one inside. since i live in a small basement studio, there just wasn't room for two. i really thought the chain couldn't be broken.
    Hi Tough:

    I've got an idea. My friend, who keeps his in his and his partner's (also) small apt., purchased this gadget to suspend his bike from his ceiling with a chain that lowers it to the floor. It's kind of a groovy looking thing. I've seen others that attach to a wall as well. I have no idea where you can purchase this rack, but I would suspect that a bike store or maybe even a Home Depot kind of place might be able to supply you with one. You should check it out. It's a real space saver.

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  • Travis
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    what screaming ??? you are a little sensitive...................

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  • Jonathan
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    Hi Travis,

    Imagine coming to the web site to find out that someone who disagrees with something you've said has been "screaming" at you in all caps! That's really not the atmosphere we want to create here. I understand you may disagree with Alexis - but "screaming" at her and basically calling her a name/insulting her - isn't the way I like to see you guys disagree with each other here. Please - and I leave your post here so everyone can see what I'm talking about - but please if you disagree with someone - just state your reasons for disagreeing and invite them to respond. Have a conversation about it. No need to yell or insult the other person. People come from all different points of view here and it's completely legitimate to discuss your differences but just do it in an adult and civilized way. That's all I ask. I don't censor anyone for their views, but I do form time to time censor them for their rudeness.

    I know there are web sites that allow any kind of insults its members choose to throw at each other - but this isn't one of them. Try to keep in mind you're talking to your neighbors here, not some stranger on the other side of the world. I'm sure if you met Alexis on the street and got into this conversation you wouldn't start right off by yelling at her - so please don't do it here. Thanks!

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  • toughbutsweetml
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    we are talking about a very heavy gauge chain with a master lock. i thought there was no way it could be stolen... i do not know how they did it. i have two bikes, so i keep the more expensive one inside. since i live in a small basement studio, there just wasn't room for two. i really thought the chain couldn't be broken.

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  • chelseachick69
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    Hi Tough:

    I'm really sorry about your bike. But, I'm just curious. If you were concerned about the element of kids in the nabe, and you knew beforehand there might be potential trouble, how come you didn't bring your bike up to your apt. Don't you think in retrospect, that this was bound to occur?

    In my opinion, you were targeted for your bike getting stolen for the very reasons you previously mentioned. For instance, they knew when you were at home and knew when you were at work. Hello! Dangling candy in front of a baby so-to-speak...

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  • Travis
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    ALEXISMCKINNON

    FALSE, YOU ARE IN DENIAL................

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